Episode 2

Greater Things | The Supremacy of Christ

Published on: 23rd October, 2025

This season on the Next Steps Podcast, hosts Chris Kopp and Tiffany Malloy go deeper into Greater Things, our series on Colossians. Together, they’ll explore what true spiritual growth looks like and how God invites us into greater things through Christ.

In this episode, Chris and Tiffany sit down with Pastor Craig Gartland to unpack one of the most powerful passages in Colossians (1:15–20). Together, they explore what it means that Jesus is the image of the invisible God, how He holds all things together, and what His supremacy means for our lives, work, and church today.

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Blackhawk Church Next Steps
Welcome to Next Steps, a podcast from Blackhawk Church in Madison, WI. We believe that following Jesus is a lifelong journey, so no matter where you’re at, there’s always a next step to take. Each episode we’ll create space for real conversations—about the questions we wrestle with, the challenges we face, and the hope we find in Jesus. Our goal isn’t to have it all perfectly figured out, but to walk faithfully towards Jesus together.